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We Are Pinball #21 "Top 3 Pinball!"

PodcastAnalysis updated 3d ago1 hr 24 min listenBy WAP
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Today folks we gather to discuss our own top 3 games from Stern, JJP, Spooky, but also Data East and Bally/Williams from the 80's and 90's! Which games from who do we think are the best?...

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Highlights

  • Metallica Remastered has 'best code' with Lyman Sheets design; nothing comes close
  • X-Men code will improve significantly by summer 2025 through Elizabeth and Dwight's work
  • Kong will cost more at launch due to price increase; Stern prices jumped $500-600 historically
  • John Wick LE machines now selling in secondary market for $9,500 (down from $15K+ retail)
  • Toy Story 4 Collectors Edition costs $15K; lost more secondary market value than John Wick
  • Pirates of the Caribbean LE cost $8,500 at 2018 launch; original games never released due to production/licensing issues
  • Pirates of the Caribbean only recently received code-complete wizard mode despite 2018 release
  • European operators must charge $3/play on machines; need 3x-4x purchase cost recovery due to tariffs (€10K for $7K games)

Notable quotes

“shots on layout is just so important... X-Men destroys Metallica's shots on layout. I mean, facts, but multiple magnets, right?”
Genghis
“I think I'm just holding back on Dungeons & Dragons. In three months, we will get the Elwynn game. Let's just get that instead.”
Donnie
“When we buy a pro, we pay the premium price. That's crazy... we need to make $10,000 back. We can't get $7,000 in three months here in Europe.”
Donnie
“I met John Wick at a hipster coffee shop, and we kind of hit it off... I just found out this job he kept talking about wasn't really that great... I'm more in love with the idea of dating John Wick than actually dating John Wick.”
Genghis
“Their best game was the one that they made like the least amount of. It's never going to be available again. And it only now just got a code complete with the wizard mode.”
Genghis
“When this game gets remade, I want it to be sold for the original prices. $7,000. That will just destroy anything else that month.”
Genghis
“Spooky Pinball can make a white body game. Heck, yeah, they can... More white bodies, please.”
Donnie
“How are you gonna put that up against um you know like the music and monsters or something... It's not fair. A professional band like you know Grammy award-winning person put out all that music”
Genghis

Entities

  • Jersey Jack Pinball· company
  • Spooky Pinball· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Black Knight Sword of Rage· game
  • Dungeons & Dragons: The Tyrant's Eye· game
  • Elton John· game
  • Evil Dead· game
  • Foo Fighters· game
  • Godzilla· game
  • Jaws· game
  • John Wick· game
  • Kong· game
  • Metallica Remastered· game
  • Pirates of the Caribbean· game
  • Toy Story 4· game
  • X-Men· game
  • Donnie· person
  • Dwight· person
  • Elizabeth· person
  • Eric Minnier· person
  • Genghis· person
  • Keith Elwin· person
  • Lyman Sheets· person

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