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We Are Pinball #12 "Hangin' with Cale!"

PodcastBy WAP

We Are Pinball

1 hr 24 min

Summary

Operator Cale Hernandez argues Jersey Jack needs simpler, cheaper games for location play; Stern dominates due to flipper feel and game theory.

Cale Hernandez, operator of Electric Bat Arcade (two Arizona locations with ~77 total machines), discusses arcade operations, game economics, and design philosophy with the We Are Pinball podcast. The conversation centers on operator profitability (Pro vs. Premium vs. LE machines generate similar earnings), Jersey Jack Pinball business model focused on home collectors rather than location operators, rule complexity as a barrier to casual play, and the mechanical/gameplay differences between Jersey Jack and Stern machines. Cale emphasizes that flipper feel, game theory, and accessibility drive Stern's street success, while Jersey Jack's complexity and feature saturation create "fatigue" for casual players.

From the creator

Very special episode of WAP today with legendary cool guy Cale Hernandez! He's the bearded part of the power duo along with Rachel Bess running the Electric Bat arcade in Tempe and Flagstaff, Arizona USA! We talk about what it's like running one of the biggest pinball tornament leagues and more about operating games. What works, what doesn't, and what we need from our manufacturing partners in this hobby and MUCH MORE! Join us for an awesome episode and hello to all pinball players from around the world! Meget speciel episode af WAP i dag med den legendariske seje fyr Cale Hernandez! Han er den skæggede del af power-duoen sammen med Rachel Bess, der driver Electric Bat-arkaden i Tempe og Flagstaff, Arizona, USA! Vi taler om, hvordan det er at køre en af ​​de største ligaer i flipperspillet og mere om operative spil. Hvad virker, hvad gør ikke, og hvad har vi brug for fra vores produktionspartnere i denne hobby og MEGET MERE! Slut dig til en fantastisk episode og hej til alle pinballspillere fra hele verden!

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