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WAP #1 "There's some bros in this house! Test Pilot episode"

PodcastAnalysis updated 3d ago1 hr 1 min listenBy WAP
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What's up everybody! Welcolme to the pilot episode! Don and Cengiz are here to take you on a magical journey of news and rumors! We Are Pinball! A world wide perspective on the hobby. COME ON!...

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Highlights

  • Stern has capacity for three production lines, currently running two with backstock/accessories on the middle line
  • Expression lights are likely the bottleneck delaying LE shipments for John Wick, costing ~$750 total to retrofit Pro/Premium models
  • Godzilla 70th anniversary edition pricing will be $12,500+, positioned as premium rather than LE despite similar cost to original LE
  • Jurassic Park 30th Anniversary edition destroyed secondary market value of original JP LE from $17,000-$19,000 to <$13,000
  • Pinball Brothers Ripley edition undercut standard Alien edition pricing, forcing distributors to unbox and place unsold inventory on location
  • ABBA is first Stern game in 10 years that Genghis's distributor didn't order due to poor new-in-box demand signals
  • Metallica pinball rumored for Spike 3 with screen, scheduled for release coinciding with Ride the Lightning 40th anniversary (July 27, 2024)
  • Used Venom LE available for under $9,000 less than a year after $13,000 LE launch
  • Distributors are dealing unsold inventory through secondary market claims (damage, lost boxes) to clear stock
  • International pricing (VAT + shipping) makes LE machines cost more than US premium prices; maximum sustainable price should be $10,000 MSRP

Notable quotes

“Everything is all in one place. I'm looking over these cubicles, and here's the guy that's working on getting Stern Army banners out to every location. Here's a group working on Insider Connected. Here's a group working on graphics.”
Don
“I'm running my own little pinball refinery here... people want to buy your modded games. You've got to be proud of that.”
Genghis
“I sold it before the topper came out, before all the modes were finished... Jaws is still not even close to 1.0 code yet, and I'm selling it. So I know even more is going to be in there.”
Don
“When they get these latest LE prices and VAT on top of that, this show is international. It's not U.S. only. It's the whole world. Some places we pay higher taxes. We pay higher VAT and higher shipping costs. It is what it is internationally. It's just too much.”
Genghis
“So we have the limited edition on stock and the limited edition is just too expensive compared to the Ripple edition... A month, two months went by. It's just impossible for us to sell the normal standard version. That's a big move.”
Genghis
“2024, no matter what you come up with, maximum price should be $10,000. Yeah. That's maximum. Yeah.”
Don/Genghis
“Stern did a great thing. They actually allowed distros to go under on two titles... But who took the hit? Was it Stern or was it the distros? That was the distro. Stern did not say, here's your dealer's rebate for doing that.”
Genghis
“For the last many, many years, I've been in the industry for 20 years. I have unboxed everything... But now, now, 2024, for the first time, I'm getting messages... Where's ABBA? Come on. Your sales have to be through the roof.”
Genghis (Retro Jango)
“Picture this game with Ride the Lightning graphic treatment, expression lights in the back box and the cabinet, and live concert footage on the screen... For $9,995. Sold.”
Genghis
“I think picking up a Stern is not a safe bet... It's just whether or not you need to get it new in box or not.”
Don

Entities

  • Pinball Brothers· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • ABBA Pinball· game
  • Alien Pinball· game
  • Foo Fighters Pinball· game
  • Godfather Pinball· game
  • Godzilla 70th Anniversary Edition· game
  • James Bond Pinball· game
  • Jaws 50th Anniversary Pinball· game
  • John Wick Pinball· game
  • Jurassic Park 30th Anniversary Edition· game
  • Metallica Pinball· game
  • Ripley Edition (Alien variant)· game
  • Venom Pinball· game
  • We Are Pinball (WAP)· organization
  • Don Garrison· person
  • Genghis (Cengiz/Retro Jango)· person
  • George Gomez· person
  • Tim Sexton· person
  • Zach Sharp· person

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