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Triple Drain Pinball Podcast Ep 47: Why No Balls In Mouth?!

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Triple Drain Pinball Podcast Episode 47: Why No Balls in Mouth?! Hosts: Joel Engelberth, Tom Graf & Travis Murie 2024 is here and we are back! In this episode we discuss our thoughts on both the...

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Highlights

  • Keith Elwin and Harrison Drake designed and tested a shark-mouth-eating-ball mechanic for Jaws but rejected it as unfun
  • Casual players and high-end collectors love Jaws; negative feedback primarily from active online pinball community/message board users
  • Jaws contains complex shot combos including left ramp to upper playfield to mini flipper to reverse 180 wire form to horizontal spinner figure-8 sequence
  • Pinball community often builds idealized versions of games in their minds disconnected from actual mechanical/design reality
  • Jurassic Park featured dinosaur eating ball; Jaws does not because sharks are underwater and scoop-based mechanic would be repetitive
  • Flip for the Cure epilepsy tournament held March 9th in Toledo, Ohio; third annual; raised over $10K last year
  • Keith Elwin designs incorporate hidden elements and meaning in every playfield detail

Notable quotes

“We designed a mech for you to shoot the ball into a shark's mouth. And you know what? It sucked.”
Keith Elwin / Harrison Drake (cited by hosts)
“Why does the pinball community hear that and go, nah, like, nah, they're wrong. They didn't try hard enough... Like, is that not enough, like, credibility for the pinball community to trust?”
Joel
“You hit that on the fly. It comes back down figure eight to the mini flipper... This is amazing. When we talk about pinball moments and stuff like that, how can that not be cool?”
Travis
“When you start understanding actual shot geometry, why is this shot here? Does it have meaning. Everything in a pinball machine, especially a Keith Elwin design, it has meaning to it.”
Joel
“The majority can't comprehend where the ball is going to go. I'll tell you that right now. After listening to a lot of the YouTube videos and reading comments, a lot of people cannot comprehend geometry and the physics of a layout.”
Travis
“I'm convinced Stern has screwed up. They should have just had one shark on the play field that eats all the balls, 3,000 LEs, $20,000 a piece. It evidently would have sold out.”
Joel
“If a game is just solely about one mech and that's it, I'm sorry. It's going to get boring, and it's going to get boring fast.”
Joel
“Everybody talks about pinball moments, which I totally get... but like think of Adam's family okay you see Thing grab the ball it is really cool when you first see it but if you've played the game a thousand times... that mech kind of gets annoying.”
Tom

Entities

  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Flip for the Cure· event
  • Addams Family (Pinball)· game
  • Attack from Mars (Williams Pinball)· game
  • Avengers (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Cactus Canyon (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Dracula (Pinball)· game
  • Godzilla (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Iron Maiden (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Jaws (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Jurassic Park (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Medieval Madness (Williams Pinball)· game
  • Metallica Premium (Stern Pinball)· game
  • Monster Bash (Pinball)· game
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Pinball)· game
  • Flippin' Out· organization
  • Pinside· organization
  • Triple Drain Pinball Podcast· organization
  • Harrison Drake· person
  • Joel· person
  • Keith Elwin· person
  • Michael Joyce· person
  • Tom· person
  • Travis· person
  • El Gato Promptor· product

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