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Episode 11: “X-Men vs. Avatar - FIGHT!”

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This episode discusses the epic pinball showdown between The Uncanny X-Men and Avatar! It’s Stern versus Jersey Jack, battling it out for your hard-earned money. Let’s discuss what happened this week...

Highlights

  • George Gomez revealed that another Stern game was bumped from the release schedule because X-Men development progressed faster than expected
  • Stern released X-Men LE early to private collectors before Pro versions went to locations, breaking their normal release pattern
  • X-Men's livestream showed incomplete code and unpolished gameplay that was likely rushed due to Jersey Jack's Avatar announcement timing
  • Stern uses an MVP (minimal viable product) development model similar to video game industry, releasing incomplete code that improves over time
  • Jersey Jack games have more advanced lighting capability than Spike 2 system used by Stern
  • Jersey Jack's games cost $12,000-$15,000+ with weaker flipper strength than Stern machines, though Elton John resolved this issue
  • Avatar features innovative gameplay mechanics including single-flipper challenges and dual underworld playfields with smaller pinballs
  • John Wick lacks a jukebox/DJ mixer music mode, suggesting incomplete music track implementation

Notable quotes

Stern tends to release things more like how the video game industry does. The code is very incomplete when you get it...It's minimal viable product.
Retro Ralph
Jersey Jack will work on a game and the game that they release is it's not that the code is the final code, but it is a complete game. And they might add to it over time.
Retro Ralph
I didn't love the presentation of the live stream...I was underwhelmed with the presentation where it almost seemed like everyone there was just not playing the game well
Retro Ralph
holy crap did they really focus on theme integration...Their games just look beautiful...their system seems more advanced than the spike 2 system
Retro Ralph
My biggest like Jersey Jack doesn't have an Insider Connected. I'm shocked by that.
Retro Ralph
You got to hit him with the thunder you gotta come with the thunder so that both your casual and your hardcore are happy. That's a hard frigging thing to do, man.
Retro Ralph
if a casual's first experience is brick fest with nothing, nothing exciting or interesting happening during that, you know, couple minutes they get to play, they may not come back
Retro Ralph
I have some pinball friends that are older than me and they still are not like big insider connected fans and i don't know why that is but i feel like my age group this like you know i'm 45
Retro Ralph

Entities

  • Jersey Jack Pinball· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Pinball Expo· event
  • Avatar· game
  • Elton John· game
  • Godzilla· game
  • John Wick· game
  • Metallica Remaster· game
  • The Uncanny X-Men· game
  • Toy Story· game
  • Electric Bat Arcade· organization
  • Phantom Tilt Pinball Podcast· organization
  • George Gomez· person
  • Jack Danger· person
  • Kale Hernandez· person
  • Kaneda· person
  • Mark Seiden· person
  • Retro Ralph· person
  • Tim Sexton· person
  • Zach Sharpe· person
  • Insider Connected· product
  • Spike 2· product

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