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#53 Eight Ball Champ - The Classic Pinball Podcast
PodcastAnalysis updated 2d ago1 hr 15 min listenBy George
The guys start with thoughts on the newest games: Mandolorian and Fathom. They then review Eight Ball Champ and play a few games. Bonus Feature: 4 Square by Gottlieb.
Highlights
- Eight Ball Champ was designed by George Christian and made in 1985; 1500 units produced
- Eight Ball Champ uses a 6803 control board, making it a precursor to Williams' all-in-one MPU driver board architecture
- Eight Ball Champ's flipper mechanism uses a proprietary plastic link and shorter rod, requiring custom modifications to work with standard Bally flipper parts
- Eight Ball Champ can be programmed to use either a Cheap Squeak or Squawk and Talk sound board via software toggle
- A 1985 Sopranos pinball machine sold for $3,650 in a video by Crazy Levi from Allentown 2005
- Original Fathom pinball machines are no longer available at $2,000; the cheapest found is around $3,000-$3,500
- Haggis is releasing a Fathom reproduction game with limited edition at 250 units priced around $9,000
- Eight Ball Champ features lane change via the flipper on the CHAMP rollover lanes, inverting typical game logic
- The upper flipper on Eight Ball Champ is not essential; all upper lanes can be accessed via the two bottom flippers
- Mandalorian pinball machine is confirmed to exist and has been generating community discussion for about two weeks
Notable quotes
“I think for people who really jolted for a Fathom and can't find one, they're going to probably punt and get this. I'd still, from what I see, I'd still rather have my original, you know, that I have versus getting this thing.”
“He said that he bought his Fathom three years ago for $2,000. Thought it was a great price to begin with... and then poured another $7,000 to $8,000 into the restoration of his game. So he came in pretty close to what a brand new one would be.”
“This game was kind of going on that thing. They changed the architecture of this game... Instead of going an MPU, a driver, and a lamp driver, this did the computer, the lamp driver, and the sauna driver all on one board.”
“You know, he sounds a little bit like the loafers. So a little soprano? A little soprano and a little too flowery. He's not like the nice deep voice 8-ball deluxe. I'm going to interject. So I changed him. I gave him some balls.”
“The first thing that sticks out is they mounted the transformer to the back box. And the reason they did that is because they don't have enough depth in the cabinet to put it where it normally would be in one of the corners of the back box. God, they got cheap.”
“I kind of, you know, had some wear in the game. Maureen touched that all up. I put a playful protector down on it. I put LEDs all throughout the GI.”
“I don't think I've ever played this before, so it'll be a first. We'll see if we can have a little competition here. I have to say, I'm getting sick of playing alone.”
“So the suggestion is disable the rollover and make the game more competitive. I'm guessing if after you had it for a while, it's probably not a bad idea. Or you could change the value of that rollover.”
“You know I'm close to you right now, right? Right. Are you being nice or are you being mean? No, I'm being nice. Okay. Okay. Let's close the back box up.”
“I think it's because of Buddy Cianci who was the mayor of Providence. It is also an Ed Cianci pinball collector.”
Entities
- Bally/Midway· company
- Haggis Pinball· company
- Williams· company
- Eight Ball Champ· game
- Eight Ball Deluxe· game
- Fathom· game
- Mandalorian· game
- Pinside· organization
- The Classic Pinball Podcast· organization
- Buddy Cianci· person
- Crazy Levi (or Crazy Levy)· person
- Dave· person
- George· person
- George Christian· person
- Grant· person
- Jack· person
- Maureen· person
- Mike Sandler· person
- Suzanne Ciani· person
- Tommy Skinner· person
- Tony Ramone· person
- Fathom Revisited· product
- Grogu· product
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