Skip to content
LoserKid Pinball Podcast
200 episodes tracked since 2019 about →
Copied!

Ep 44: deeproot Discussion with Dennis and Zach

PodcastAnalysis updated 3d ago1 hr 43 min listen
From the creator

Seriously this whole episode is all about deeproot! Scott goes off the rails. Zach, Dennis, and Josh do their best to bring him back.

Highlights

  • Deep Root Pinball was supposed to reveal Raza at TPF (Pinball Expo) in March 2019, then March 2020 due to COVID, and finally September 21, 2024
  • Six pinball media personalities attended the event (identified as Lauren, Kerry, Colin, Jeff, Chris, and Crystal) under NDA
  • Raza images leaked after the event, causing loss of narrative control for Deep Root
  • The prototype shown at Straight Down the Middle featured a steep right ramp shot that was notoriously difficult to make
  • Deep Root Pinball has not taken any money from customers yet
  • The prototype was first shown in November 2019 on This Week in Pinball with Jeff Teolis
  • John Papadiuk (Papa Duke) was hired by Deep Root, contributing to community anger over vaporware association
  • Steve Bowden is mentioned as a competitive player who should have caught technical issues if they existed internally

Notable quotes

I fell for the football one more time and yet again Lucy pulled the football away from my foot... it is just sad. It's sad that it's just it's pathetic. It's hard to even make fun of them because it is beyond ridiculous at this point.
Josh Roop
There's zero chance he is never going to make an American Pinball machine. Mark my words. He is never making an American Pinball machine. Like this guy is it's vaporware 2.0 and this is crazy.
Scott Larson
What's wrong with your machine if that's the case and why did your own team either not have the capability to identify it or it's too intimidated to speak the truth?
Dennis Kriesel
This is the worst. Like seriously I bet Teal is rolling over in his Canadian grave right now.
Scott Larson
I don't care what Robert's saying anymore. I'm not really angry at the company because I haven't lost a dime on this but at some point this guy's a clown. There's nothing that he's actually doing to make other than standing up and making these big statements that he has never, he's never made good on.
Scott Larson
I have zero confidence. Like none. I'm serious. This is ridiculous.
Scott Larson
Nobody cares anymore. No one's ever going to buy this game.
Josh Roop
You are what your record says you are and they are what their record says they are.
Dennis Kriesel (quoting Bill Parcells)

Entities

  • American Pinball· company
  • Deep Root Pinball· company
  • Flippin' Out Pinball· company
  • Jersey Jack Pinball· company
  • Spooky Pinball· company
  • Stern Pinball· company
  • Raza· game
  • LoserKid Pinball Podcast· organization
  • This Week in Pinball· organization
  • Barry Osler· person
  • Chris Chandler· person
  • Colin· person
  • Crystal· person
  • Dennis Kriesel· person
  • Dennis Nordman· person
  • Jeff Teolis· person
  • John Papadiuk· person
  • Jon Norris· person
  • Josh Roop· person
  • Kerry· person
  • Lauren· person
  • Robert Mueller· person
  • Scott Larson· person
  • Steve Bowden· person
  • Zach Minney· person

More from LoserKid Pinball Podcast

→ All content from LoserKid Pinball Podcast