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Ep 41: Flying High
PodcastAnalysis updated 4d ago1 hr 25 min listenBy Jeff Teolis & Martin Robbins
Final Round Pinball Podcast Episode 41: Flying High Hosts: Jeff Teolis & Martin Robbins Special Guest: Ryan C. It’s the episode you’ve always wanted. Jeff takes a beating, Martin is drunk, and Ryan...
Highlights
- Robert Mueller used Deep Root investor funds for personal expenses including weddings, Hawaiian condo, and children's education
- Robert Mueller withdrew approximately $1.5 million in wages over 4-5 years from Deep Root
- Robert Mueller offered refunds to Deep Root pre-order customers, and only three people accepted
- Deep Root promised $250,000-$750,000 monthly spending at some point
- Someone (possibly Iceman) from Pinside drove to Deep Root facilities to count employee cars as an indicator of company health
- David Thiel was part of Deep Root Pinball project
- Deep Root's initial investment fund was $58 million
- Robert Mueller attempted to purchase Spooky Pinball
- Nate Shivers declined to interview Robert Mueller on his podcast due to duty of care concerns, following John Papadiuk precedent
Notable quotes
“This is a shit day for pinball. It's a really shit day for pinball. And now I'm in the pinball industry, so it reflects on me in the industry. So I've felt shit all night.”
“None of it made me happy. None of it filled me with joy. None of it made me even feel like there was vindication or justice has been served.”
“There are these people, as I said, these mom and pop people who were convinced to invest their retirement money, move it from one fund into this, and they've lost it all. This is the biggest part.”
“I don't think it was at, maybe at one point he got in over his head, and he just like, 'Well, I got access to all this money, and I'm going to start spending on my personal life,' and that's where he really messed up.”
“The older I get, the more I realize that so much of life is derived from ego and the sense of self and someone trying to prove someone wrong... his ego was huge. Maybe the biggest we've seen in the hobby in the time that I've been involved.”
“I don't feel sorry for us. We knew what the stakes were in both cases. I feel horribly about the people that lost their life savings, perhaps any kind of chance of a future.”
“Today is a fucking dark day for pinball. It really is. It's shit. I feel shit.”
Entities
- American Pinball· company
- Deep Root Pinball· company
- Haggis Pinball· company
- Jersey Jack Pinball· company
- Spooky Pinball· company
- Stern Pinball· company
- Pinball Profile World Tour· event
- Bailey Williams· person
- Barry Osler· person
- Ben Heck· person
- Charlie· person
- David Thiel· person
- Iceman· person
- Jeff Teolis· person
- John Norris· person
- Keith Elwin· person
- Martin Robbins· person
- Nate Shivers· person
- Quinn Johnson· person
- Robert Mueller· person
- Ryan C.· person
- Scott Larson· person
- Steve Bowden· person
- Homepin/Mike· person/company
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