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Ep 17: Delayed
PodcastAnalysis updated 3d ago1 hr 38 min listenBy Jeff Teolis & Martin Robbins
Final Round Pinball Podcast Episode 17: Delayed Hosts: Jeff Toolis & Martin Robbins Special Guest: Travis Murie – Take 2 – Special Guest Travis Murie talks about the impact of deeproot today and in...
Highlights
- Deep Root Pinball's September 21st launch did not happen as scheduled
- The Deep Root delay is the biggest pinball controversy in recent memory
- Community commentary on Pinside and social media about Deep Root has been overwhelmingly negative (99% per Steven)
- Pictures of the Deep Root machine leaked to Pinside around 4 p.m. on Monday before the official reveal
- Deep Root previously announced 'Five Days of Deep Root' a year in advance (around 2018-2019) which they missed
- Robert (Deep Root founder) has been perceived by the community as arrogant/boastful about beating other manufacturers
- Colin McAlpine (world champion player) tested the Raza machine but cannot discuss experience due to NDA
- Deep Root has not provided any public information about manufacturing capability or plans
- This Week in Pinball published a detailed article/deep dive revealing Deep Root game titles and features after the failed launch
- Steven Bowden was originally scheduled as guest for this episode but had to reschedule due to Deep Root launch issues
Notable quotes
“I would rather have a delay than a piece of shit product come out. I'm not saying that it was, but let's just say if something was a major malfunction or didn't work. Take your time with it. And they're definitely doing that. But just get it right because you only get that one first impression.”
“99% of the commentary is very negative there's a lot of vitriol there it is overwhelmingly negative. I don't personally agree with it. I'm sort of like you I just think okay you know it's a bad thing that happened you know it'll happen in the future.”
“I have seen the ups and downs of Pinside over the last few years... And then it was like, okay, what's going on? and then the excitement of, okay, we're going to see a game at Houston... and then when it doesn't happen, they're pissed off, rightfully so.”
“I think there needs to be a separation between those two... Robert came out, you know, arms flailing all about, you know, pinball is easy. All these other companies are shit. They're, you know, we're going to absolutely revolutionize the pinball industry... And when it gets delayed, people are like, see, told you.”
“I'm not falling for this. Is that real? Food truck? Food truck. Yep. No. Yep. Tell me that he's punking me right now. Not a punk, man.”
“They need to just get their footing. And to me, if you're talking about doing all this innovation, then you need to start showing us that innovation, even if it's not ready yet. Document it. Show us something behind the scenes. Just give us a clue as to what's going on.”
“You're waiting for you to fail instead of creating a situation in which they're rooting for you to win. This is like the exact opposite of say Spooky Pinball. You know, everybody, I feel like everybody's rooting for Spooky to win.”
“Did the pinball machine flip well? And for me, I'm really interested to hear how that was. And the whole pinball community can't hear what happened with that. And I think that that's a really important detail in this whole thing.”
“They've already launched their brand and it's like they don't realize it. I mean, what was it, guys, like two years ago that they said that they were going to have the five days of Deep Root. They announced that a year ahead of time. And then it came in 2019 and then nothing.”
“I don't give a shit what the theme is. If it's great pinball, I'll play Quicksilver with all those penises on the back of the glass because I freaking love that land.”
Entities
- Deep Root Pinball· company
- Spooky Pinball· company
- Avengers· game
- Fire and Brimstone· game
- Food Truck· game
- Quicksilver· game
- Raza· game
- Rick and Morty· game
- Stargazer· game
- Final Round Pinball Podcast· organization
- Pinside· organization
- This Week in Pinball· organization
- Colin McAlpine· person
- Jeff Teelis· person
- John Papadiuk· person
- Robert· person
- Steven Bowden· person
- Steven Martin· person
- Travis Meary· person
- Cactus Jacks· venue
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