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Episode 138 - So Which Came First?
PodcastAnalysis updated 3d ago58 min listenBy Dennis Kriesel & Tony Kurkowski
Pinball: The guys briefly talk TWIPYs before moving into the latest information coming out about deeproot Pinball. From there they play a new game submitted by Matt Roberts: So Which Came First?...
Highlights
- Deep Root Pinball has been accepting pre-orders for five months without shipping Raza machines due to UL/CE certification delays
- Deep Root will discontinue surplus Raza machines; only pre-ordered units will be manufactured
- Deep Root projects no significant updates for six weeks, with next communication in mid-May regarding financial relief options
- Manufacturing, not game design, has consistently been the primary failure point for pinball startups (Highway, Dutch Pinball, Skit-B)
- Kerry Hardy published a YouTube video discussing Deep Root issues using the word 'scam'
- Deep Root originally announced plans to launch with five or six games ready at launch, now struggling with one machine
- The Big Bang Bar reissue has damaged the pinball hobby by encouraging speculative collecting over gameplay enjoyment
- Stern Pinball cannot build GNR machines fast enough, being behind by 5,000 units
Notable quotes
“Despite the past, we don't want to be known as the company that customers can rely on for delays... we understand the importance of delivering on the promises made.”
“I just wonder how long, I mean, when is it not worth it anymore? When do you just go ahead and say, okay, it didn't work, we failed, let's give up?”
“Just because you like somebody doesn't mean that a they've made a good life choice b that their very existence with a company means that it's a good company... I don't judge those people for believing. I guess I judge a little bit.”
“It's unfortunate in a lot of ways, but any new manufacturer is always going to have this greater degree of skepticism.”
“The theme isn't attractive to anyone. And the return of J-Pop clearly isn't enough of a motivator to sell games, at least not for a brand new company.”
“What if in the course of those discussions I had learned something that made me think that the company might be in trouble? The NDA would have completely paralyzed my ability to report that.”
“I dare not predict anymore. I almost think just off of force of will that they're going to ship Raza at some point, if nothing else, just to tie a bow on that chapter.”
“Supply chain disruptions... they've outsourced so much that they cannot... it doesn't matter if it's food truck or goonies or any other game... they can't build anything.”
Entities
- Deep Root Pinball· company
- Dutch Pinball· company
- Highway Pinball· company
- Skit-B· company
- Stern Pinball· company
- The Twippies· event
- Beatles Rock Band· game
- Big Bang Bar· game
- GNR (Guns N' Roses)· game
- Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (Raza)· game
- Eclectic Gamers Podcast· organization
- Bruce Nightingale· person
- Dennis· person
- Jeff Teolis· person
- Kerry Hardy· person
- Kevin Kulik· person
- Matt Roberts· person
- Papa Duke / J-Pop· person
- Robert J. Mueller· person
- Tony· person
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